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Nick Cohen
Tuesday 18th May 2010
On Being Told off by Melanie Phillips

In an interview to promote her new book, Melanie Phillips is asked a tough question. Why, if as she maintains, leftish secularism and atheism, have weakened the West by promoting moral relativism, are people such as myself, Christopher Hitchens and Oliver Kamm at the forefront of arguing against the appeasement off radical Islam.

 Christopher and Oliver can speak for themselves - no, really, they can. In my case, Melanie says that I do not fully understand the conflicts of our time because I am obsessed with "the right," and see the fact that Western liberals and leftists are allying with or making excuses for "the far right" of Islamist clerical reaction as a great betrayal of their principles.

I have two responses.

1.Obviously "far right" like "far left" are lazy terms. I accept that what unites fascists and communists is more important than what divides them. Similarly what unites democratic leftists and conservatives - that they both believe in democracy, for instance - is more important than their arguments over economic and social policy. Still you have to have some label for ultra-reactionary beliefs which seek to impose a totalitarian dictatorship by promoting the oppression of women, homophobia and the demonisation of Jews. Traditionally in Europe, such movements have been associated with Catholic ultras and fascists. They were indeed a long way from small-state, free-market conservatives but not so far away by any means from "blood and soil" conservatism.

2 What does she think frighten clerical fascists the most? What  does she believe will eventually bring down the Mullahs in Iran, the Saudi royal family, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood? I don't believe it will be the spread of Christianity to the Middle East which will do it, but demands for democracy, freedom of speech, freedom from religious persecution and, above all, for the emancipation of women.

In other words it will be my ideas that win this battle, not hers.

 
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Melanie Phillips
July 2nd, 2010
8:07 AM
I've only just seen Nick's comment. I suggest people listen to the interview clip to which he helpfully links to understand what I was actually saying.

Kimpatsu
June 14th, 2010
4:06 AM
Melanie Phillips's arguments are at best disingenuous, and at worst dishonest. The only real issue with the claims of Xianity is: Are they true? And clearly, the answer is NO!

Tina Trent
May 28th, 2010
11:05 AM
Do you really think the people in the pews are so dumb and submissive? The tide long ago turned for a healthy and vigorous understanding of unto Caesar -- at least in my country (which might explain the health of faith here). Western Christianity is not without faults, large and small and yes, manifested largely in its leadership, but the faith of the very substantial masses is also indistinguishable from their sense of justice and freedom -- and obligation to defend our values. Ignoring this is terribly simplistic. Reality is terribly complex.

Backflipper
May 25th, 2010
10:05 PM
Multiculturalism requires us to assume most people want peace, rainbows and harmony, indeed that the better angels of our collective nature will prevail.

BlairSupporter
May 19th, 2010
6:05 PM
I have written a transcript of one of Mel's Millenarianism videos at the blog. She talks a lot of sense in her identification of how "religiously" certain beliefs are held these days. So, I think it is wrong to dismiss her out of hand. Though I am with you, Nick on what/who will win the struggle against religious (Islamic) fundamentalism. It surely isn't AN Other brand of religious fundamentalism. http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/phillips-on-millenari...

Brian Stewart
May 19th, 2010
12:05 AM
It was I who posed the "tough question" to Melanie Phillips. If only there was a recording of our narrow but deep disagreement after the microphone was turned off. She was even more explicit in pressing the false and ugly idea that without the support of our own faith delusions, jihadists will not be confronted and defeated. Keep up the good fight, sir.

Wien1938
May 18th, 2010
6:05 PM
Quite so, Nick. I think that easily MP fits into a position defined by Fritz Stern in The Politics of Cultural Discontent as "revolutionary conservative". Neoconservative? Moi?

Gareth
May 18th, 2010
5:05 PM
My response would have been one of relief that Mel was distancing herself from me. It also strikes me as strange that such a weakened, relativistic West has managed to do more war-fighting in the last ten years than in the previous thirty.

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Nick Cohen is a columnist for the Observer. He is the author of Pretty Straight Guys, What's Left?, and Waiting for the Etonians. For more information and his previous blog, visit nickcohen.net

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